It’s a funny thing, delusion. We usually only see it in others, or in ourselves in the past tense. Think about the implications of that.
Then get back to me.
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It’s a funny thing, delusion. We usually only see it in others, or in ourselves in the past tense. Think about the implications of that.
Then get back to me.
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But if every moment one thinks of oneself becomes automatically time past–the only time in present is actual being, not thinking about being–then we are always thinking of ourselves in the past tense and can see with clarity, right?
Yeah, right. I see all kinds of things about myself with great clarity, but they may not be true.
Can’t argue with that, don’t know what the implications are, other than that we’re all, to a greater or lesser degree, selfish and self centered, but then we knew that didn’t we?
He only means that we’re always looking at things from a twisted vantage point—we make up our own stories or realities based on our own skewed vision. When other people do this to themselves, we notice right away and call them idiots, lunatics, or friends who refuse to see reason. We even talk to ourselves like this when we look back over time, like, “What was I thinking?! I was being such an idiot!” Once our perspectives gain clarity, we can properly observe ourselves. But usually, when we’re in the middle of our own madness, we can’t be objective.
This perfectly aligns with a quote I read recently. Something about how we should never trust ourselves to make wise decisions regarding our own lives because we can’t see ourselves clearly. Therefore, we should trust the advice of friends and family members. Or even complete strangers. Anyone would give a person wiser advice than that which he would give himself.
Is that basically what you’re getting at?
You assume we’re not delusional now. But we aren’t aware of it when we are, are we? And those delusional (or not) others, are we just fooling ourselves?
In no way do I assume we’re not delusional now. In fact, I feel quite certain we are. So does that mean we’re not? 🙂
I suppose in its simplest form, a delusion is something we believe to be reality when it is not. However, who can be the judge of reality? Therefore, there can be no delusion—only billions of little realities. Right? 🙂
I can be the judge of reality. If you insist on abdicating.
Well I’m wondering what we really mean by delusional.
It’s a rare person who can see it in herself, in the present. Now that would be a useful gift.
Impossible, by definition.
I don’t think so. If you knew you had a crazy brain and that pretty much everything you thought up was way off, even if you believed what you were thinking, you could watch yourself thinking and say, “That girl is sure nutty.” But you’d have to have a severed brain, I suppose.
You’ve got me wondering if that delusional state can ever be a positive thing?
What delusional state? The one we thought we were in before, or the one we might be in now?
either one will do
Well then, why not?
What if we’re only happy when we’re delusional? Then why on earth does everyone go around trying to burst other people’s bubbles?
Indeed, if they’re harmless. Of course, happily deluded Nazis… Sent from my NOOK
Touche.